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John Michael Elsen
This is a great map as it focuses towards the future of Midland and our values of ESG. Midland is the gateway to the North and West. We hold legacy values with Bay City and Saginaw and not Flint. Our future is to the North and West.
This is a terrible district. Midland county has little in common with the other counties in this district. Midland is not a rural/farming county. Manufacturing, technology and education has always been the base of Midland county's economy. I'd wager that most people in Midland could not even name the other counties in the proposed district. Midland belongs with the Bay City, Saginaw and Flint.
The City of Midland is not rural, and should be included in a Congressional district along with Bay City, Saginaw, and Flint. These cities are the core of Mid-Michigan and a community of interest. The City of Midland needs be included in an area that makes economic and geographic sense! I see a lot of comments stating Midland is rural? The City of Midland is NOT rural. Please do not consider this map. Also, please continue to look at partisan bias when tweaking maps.
The City of Midland should be in a congressional district with the tri-Cities and Flint as they are all urban/suburban areas that need appropriate representation. If Tuscola County were placed in the Thumb district and the portion of Gratiot that is carved out for the 11th is put back with the 13th and then place the city of Midland as much of Midland County as will fit in the 11th this would be a better district and more representative of the communities and would make a map closer to zero political bias. You can then remove some of Oakland and Macomb counties from the Thumb district. Partisan fairness is far more important for the overall map and this map does not achieve this.
Don't like this map. The city of Midland should be with the tri-Cities and Flint in a congressional district and the map as a whole needs to reflect partisan fairness.
I like this map a lot more than the other one that got a lot of press a couple weeks ago. The effort to draw a district where urban areas of Kent and Kalamazoo counties are in the same district is a good idea IMHO. The areas surrounding those two urban areas then get placed into more rural districts which will tend to represent more of their population more accurately. Thank you for listening to requests to change that other map.
ROBERT W DECOE DECOE
I like this map , puts Tuscola, Genesee, Bay county in the same USHouse district
I much prefer this map in that it keeps Niles with the rest of Berrien County and within a western Michigan - lake shore community of interest. I am adamantly against carving out Niles and putting it with a southern Michigan tier of counties, most of which have been allowed to remain whole and with which I feel Niles has little in common.
Looking at West Michigan, it seems as if you are unfairly packing the Democratic cities of Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo into a single district at the expense of having each of those cities be included within their respective counties. And I've never understood the idea of a "Lakeshore community of interest" as being a priority. For starters, small resort towns such as my hometown of Saugatuck has little to do with more major cities such as Benton Harbor and Muskegon and virtually zero in common with the rural inland communities which you found necessary to include. Overall, it seems the Commission is making a conscious effort to maximize Republican districts at the expense of Democratic voters across Michigan. Simply unfair.
I appreciate the districting for Ottawa here just because I have felt a strong sense of community within the county!
James V mulder
Thank you for keeping Ottawa Co. together.
This is what a district looks like when partisan fairness is all of a sudden the top consideration instead of the fourth. Trash this map.
This map is well-drawn. The issues facing the city of Grand Rapids have little in common with lakeshore communities. Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids make a much more logical and cohesive community of interest. It makes sense to keep the lakeshore together as well, as they face similar issues like shoreline erosion and produce unique agricultural products such as blueberries in Ottawa and VanBuren counties.
Thank you for keeping Ottawa County and the other lakeshore communities together!
Thank you for keeping Ottawa Co together with the other lake shore counties. We are of few people compared to the cities of GR, Kentwood, Wyoming and the rest of Kent County. This is far more fair!
Thank you for switching to map #187, keeping the lakeshore community together.
Mrs. Curtis Van Roekel
Thank you for keeping the entire Ottawa County together!
Thank you for keeping Ottawa County together as a whole! We appreciate that we are unified as one county and one voice! Thank You!
Thanks for keeping Ottawa County together! We're the fastest growing county in Michigan and shouldn't be split up. I appreciate map #187 as it keeps my local community together with the lakeshore. We consider ourselves part of the lakeshore community.
How do I know if this is a balanced map? Does party vote translate equally to seats? I can't tell. What metric, like efficiency gap, was used to determine whether the maps are fair?
I appreciate this map #187 that keeps my home and local communities together with the nearby lakeshore. The homeowners in our area consider ourselves part of the lakeshore community. This keeps our community of interest intact. We are a somewhat rural area and will not be adequately represented if added to Kent County/Grand Rapids.
Grand Rapids is the 2nd largest city in Michigan. I am wondering why the suburbs around Grand Rapids are not included with the city? Living in a nearby suburb, we are only a fifteen minute drive from the city. Why do the suburbs get stuck with the lakeshore and a lot of rural area?
Thank you for listening to Ottawa's voice. Thanks for keeping Ottawa County together as a community of interest. We are the fastest growing county in Michigan and we shouldn’t be split up. Please use map 187 to keep our wonderful lake shore community together.
I like how this map keeps my home and community together with the nearby lakeshore cities and townships. The people in our area consider ourselves part of the lake shore community, and I'm glad to see Ottawa with Muskegon and Allegan. This looks fair and balanced to me.
These revisions make sense. Thanks for reworking so that our lakeshore area stays together.
I like map 187. It keeps Ottawa County together and combines it with similar counties.
Keith den Hollander
This map is so much better than the last one. Keeping the lakeshore communities together makes a ton of sense. They have similar tourism and commerce interests.
We have nothing in common with the counties as drawn. It really seems to shift our suburban needs and drive them towards northern counties with a very different constituency.
Excuse me? Madison Heights belongs with the other communities of SE Oakland County, we have different communities of interest that are more in common with District 3.
Thank you for keeping the Bangladeshi & Yemeni communities in/around Hamtramck together in one united voting bloc with this map.
As a Kalamazoo resident, I like the way this congressional district is drawn.
This is the only map I've seen that preserves the West Michigan community, it just makes sense to leave communities whole.
I do not like the way the 10th is set up here. The major reasoning for this commission is to create districts that are evenly split between Dems and Republicans. Your mapping does not show this information but I am guessing it has not changed from what it is currently
The democrats are gerrymandering with the 4th.
This is a great map! Keeps the County of Midland whole. We are grouped with rural areas around Midland. Many of the workers at my business are coming to Midland from the Gladwin and Isabella counties. This map keeps the City of Midland together with the areas that have experienced the issues with the dams failing and flooding. We have very little in common with Flint and Saginaw. We have very different school systems and the crime rates are very different. The issues that require significant work in Flint and Saginaw are much different than those in the City of Midland. This is a great map!
Well drawn map. Keeps in mind things like geographical boundaries - not everything is Detroit - and maintains diversity of the populace in each district.
Great map. Respects geographically unique areas as great as possible with the census update. Good work!
Midland is urban just like Bay City, Saginaw and Flint and is a key part of MidMichigan. Midland is home to 3 Fortune 500 companies, a large cultural center, and a large hospital center. Midland is not rural and should be represented with other urban areas.
This map (#187) places the City of Midland in a rural group of counties. The City of Midland is NOT rural—it forms a community of interest with Bay City and Saginaw. It shares a strong industrial base with those cities and shares so many interests with them. I see comments from folks who call Midland rural but they must not live in the City of Midland because no resident would consider it to be rural. I also see comments that are in support of keeping Midland County as a whole for governance, but frankly the City of Midland has its own governance and there is no good reason to separate City of Midland from Bay City & Saginaw. I am sure there will need to be split counties and I am fine with splitting Midland County, especially if it keeps the City of Midland from being lumped in with rural counties whose residents have very different interests than us urban/suburban residents of the City of Midland.
This map does not provide the city of Midland with a COI. We are a city not a part of rural communities. We have not had a representative that truly represents the city because Midland has been lumped in with rural communites for the past 10 years. Our current rep does not have to listen to about half the residents of Midland because he is in a safe seat. City people need reps that fight for urban agendas and rural people need reps that will fight nor rural agendas.
Midland is not a rural community so this map is terrible. We are home to 3 Fortune 500 companies and function as an urban community just like Saginaw, Bay City and Flint.
This is a very strange looking district. But to fulfill the commissions mandate to not draw a "disproportionate advantage to any political party". Article IV §6 (13)(d). and Article IV §6 (13)(c) "Districts shall reflect the state's diverse population and communities of interest". Some compromises will have to be made. I live in southern Kent County and in my opinion, share a community of interest with Kalamazoo far more than Holland or Georgetown Township to the west or Lowell/Nashville/Dowling to the West.
I like the current map. Thank you commissioners. I would like to make a response to the comments given by Trenton Berry. In all due respect Midland is not really a part of the tricities since the 2000 census as we are not a metro area and we do not really share a community of interest. I do not understand how it would make sense to carve out Midland Townships and add Saginaw townships to us as a rural community. Taking a county (Saginaw) south of us and splitting it up from those around it and adding it to Midland is like individually and indiscriminately picking counties not even in close proximity and adding them together.
Thank you commissioners for keeping Midland County and the city of Midland together with other rural communities such as Isabella and Gratiot. I think that this map provides for a good representation of these communities of interest. This will also keep the restoration of all these communities that have been affected by the Tittabawasee watershed and suffered significant property damage as well as the loss of Sanford and Wixom Lakes which we all use.
Mary J Quehl
Thank you commissioners for keeping midland county and the city of midland together. Midland does not share community of interests with Bay, Saginaw, and Flint. We are more of a rural district, more aligned with Isabella, Gratiot, and Midland county north of us such as Clare and Gladwin. We are not a metropolitan area. Thank you argain.
Redistricting Commission notes 9.30.21 My name is Phillip Reid and I live in the Clarkston area of North Oakland County. Referring to Congressional District Map 187 of 9.29.21: In regard to the districts as proposed North Oakland County which is mainly "bedroom" communities has strong associations with Flint and Genesee counties, and has little in common with the Northeastern part of the state. I believe Tuscola County has much more in common with the Thumb Area than North Oakland County has and I would recommend you revise the CD maps with this in mind.
This map looks good in relation to Midland county. It keeps the county governing body together, and includes Midland with the watershed to the N and W so we can more easily address our flooding issues. Thanks for you hard work pulling together everyone's ideas.
This is a much more reasonable Congressional map for West Michigan. It creates a lakeshore district and maintains the Grand Rapids Metro area completely as a COI within its Congressional district. Keep up the good work!
If the commission insists on drawing districts apparently exclusively to include two urban areas (one can only see this as a partisan gerrymander) why maintain any pretense of geographical continuity? Cut out the rural 'bridge' and just make a district out of urban islands.
Midland should be part of the Tri-Cities to keep our communities of interest together. As many have stated, they want to keep Midland County whole. So here is an idea, instead of carving out the townships in Midland County, why not take out some of the western townships in Saginaw County. It keeps the Midland whole, and puts some rural areas of Saginaw with other rural areas.
I would like to thank the commissioners for seeming to take the public comment they heard on Wednesday seriously. I spoke during public comment about the strong ties Arenac and Bay Counties have and how they should be kept together. This map does just that. I also heard public comment from folks asking for Midland and Ottawa counties to be kept whole as well, and this map achieves that as well. Job well done!
This 4th district is very odd, with the attempt to link the GR and Kazoo urban areas along the 131 corridor. It looks like you're trying to get one, and maybe two, possible Democratic districts out of this, something I would expect from a Democratic-run redistricting process in the legislature, if it was so controlled. But you can do better with 4, 9, and 13. Most people don't think partisan--they think job, home, local school, local shopping, etc., all arguing for geographically compact districts, as much as possible even in rural and small town areas. The lack on the commission of deep familiarity with western Michigan is so apparent, and so disappointing.
This is a great map! For the first time, it creates a contiguous Lakeshore district from the state border through Muskegon County. It respects existing borders and communities of interest. With the inclusion of Muskegon to Benton Harbor/St. Joe, Grand Haven-Holland-Georgetown, and Allegan-Saugatuck-South Haven can speak with a voice that aligns with our shared economic and environmental interests! Well done.
Carl L Hamann
I approve of this map. It make sense to put community that are geographically aligned together. Theses areas are developed over time with common interests. That's what a community is made up of , people with common interests.
Appreciate this set of maps working to keep more counties whole. The northern counties tend to have more in common via this than other issues I have seen. Appreciate Midland being whole and aligned with the more similar counties to the West.
David D Kepler
This overall map seems to best reflect a better Aligment of Geography and Community of interest , especially for Districts 9 through 12. I think it needs to be recognized that in rural area, there is more reliance on the county structure, and that needs to be factored in community of interest. Certainly for District 13th, in which my family lives, I feel this maps has a good balance of interest around social , environmental and economic factors.
What a strange set of districts for Western MI! I understand what you're going for with a lakeshore district but it seems like avoiding county-splitting is being prioritized over communities of interest (maybe due to the Ottawa comments pushed by the county Republicans). The result is this odd district where Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo are cut out of their respective counties and connect through a very rural part of Barry because that's what you're left with. This doesn't make much sense. The configurations with Grand Rapids-Muskegon and Kalamazoo-Battle Creek-lakeshore in Eid's maps just make a lot more sense from a community of interest standpoint. I think you should go in that direction instead of sticking with this. Alternatively, you can draw a district that extends along the lakeshore from St. Joseph to Muskegon and extends west to Kalamazoo and Battle Creek. Then Grand Rapids/Kent is linked with eastern Ottawa.
Thank you for keeping Midland County whole and for keeping Midland County aligned to a rural, westward-facing District. Please consider the same logic to the Senate maps!
Correction to my initial comment: Utica, Washington Township, Clinton Township, etc. could be added to District 6, not District 11, while 6 would then expand to unite all of Warren. The prior comments also relate to District 3 on this map, not District 9.
District 9 can be better drawn to unite the Detroit exurbs in northern and western Oakland County rather than combining them with the thumb. As someone from Independence Township, I do not have any mutual interests (economic, political, or otherwise) with communities in the thumb, but rather those in Oakland County like Rochester Hills, Novi, Wixom, West Bloomfield, and Pontiac. The population loss in District 10 can be offset by adding Utica, Clinton Township, etc. to 10 and Troy to 11. The new District 9 would unite the Oakland County exurban areas of metro Detroit and would be highly competitive on a partisan level, while still allowing a VRA district to unite Southfield and Detroit. An image of such a proposed district is attached.
I think District 6 here does not fully represent the areas of Oakland and Macomb county that I have an interest in. It does not completely encompass the government and industrial defense communities of Southeast Michigan/Metro Detroit. My wife and I have family all across District 10 and I believe it does a good job at joining the mutual interests of the Thumb communities, Eastern Michigan-Canadian border communities, and Lake St. Clair communities outside of Metro Detroit.
This map satisfactorily represents Muskegon County. Our intact county is a "community of interest". This keeps us together and we are joined with other lakeshore communities who have shared interests such as invasive species, shoreline erosion, water quality etc. Grand Rapids is a land-locked major metropolitan area, much bigger than us. Muskegon would get lost in the shuffle and ignored if a portion of our county were carved off to be put with them.
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