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John Michael Elsen
This map does not reflects Midlands values for ESG. We have a future to the North and West and we have a legacy with Bay City and Saginaw, but none with Flint. Our focus for ESG cannot be diluted by Flint.
Stefanie Sedlar
Gratiot and Isabella Counties share an RESD. Please do not split them across 2 different Congressional Districts.
Sandra L Dyl
I am concerned with breaking Oakland County into so many districts particularly for the federal congressional districts and to a lesser extent, the state Senate districts.
Oakland County is a cohesive entity particularly along the I-75 corridor and the M-59 corridor. I understand that the increasing population of Oakland County makes it impossible to keep the entire county within one federal congressional district, but regional and shared resources such as fire, police, and park services that receive both state and federal funding are best served by keeping communities that share those resources in the same congressional district or at least just a couple adjoining congressional districts.
Although it may appear to make sense to separate Troy from Rochester and Rochester Hills, they share more in common than Rochester/Rochester Hills and Sterling Heights.
It also makes sense to keep Orion Township, Oxford Township, Brandon Township, and Independence Township together as they share school districts and some facilities, however, those same facilities are shared by Oakland Township, which would be in a separate state Senate district.
Orion Township and Oakland Township also share some facilities with Rochester/Rochester Hills, yet they are proposed to be placed in separate federal Congressional districts.
For example, Auburn Hills is an economic powerhouse with little housing of its own. The employees who work in Auburn Hills live in Troy, Rochester/Rochester Hills, Oakland Township, Orion Township, Independence Township, Oxford Township, Pontiac, and Bloomfield, yet those communities are separated into several different Congressional and Senate districts. Only the residents of Troy would vote for any representation that would affect Auburn Hills where they own a business or work, and the rest of the employees and owners would be divided into different districts. I understand that population makes it impossible to keep all of those communities in one district, but it does seem to make sense to avoid breaking Oakland County up into so many different districts.
I appreciate all of the effort MICRC has put into redistricting, however, I believe that it is important to consider how communities interact with each other. Eastern and all of northern Oakland County have done a lot of regional planning. The communities there are diverse yet have far more needs in common with each other than with communities in western Macomb County.
Even more, the communities in Oakland County have far more needs in common than the much more rural areas to the east in Macomb and St. Clair counties and counties further to the north, yet federal Congressional District 10 would lump northern Oakland County with areas all the way to the Detroit River and with areas in the thumb which have nothing in common. Diversity within a district is great, but my concern is these areas have so little in common that it will be impossible for one Representative to represent everyone fairly.
Oakland County is a cohesive economic entity which has engaged in regional planning for years, but the current map would chop Oakland County into several federal Congressional districts with little regard to communities that interact together. Please try to keep Oakland County in fewer districts and joined with other surrounding areas that are economically connected and which share services.
Jack Bengtsson
Regarding the comment by Adam Kroczaleski, putting Arenac into the 5th is a pretty easy fix. Arenac to the 5th, replaced by portions of Wexford or the northernmost twps of Wexford and Manistee into the 1st, and four townships out of Midland into the 2nd. Something to consider if you're serious about this map being a final option.
Adam Kroczaleski
Arenac is part of the Great Lakes Bay Region of Arenac, Gladwin, Clare, Isabella, Midland, Bay, Saginaw, and Gratiot. We have very few civic, social, or economic ties with northern Michigan or the UP, even though we are on the edge of what many consider "up north". Our communities of interest lie to our south. We are extremely connected with Bay County and the congressional and state districts should reflect this as a community of interest. Thank you.
Jack Bengtsson
One other small suggestion for SE Michigan. You might consider moving Taylor, Romulus, and Oak Park (majority Black) to the 12th; Dearborn to the 13th along with a few Detroit precincts. Southgate to the 8th; additional parts of Novi to the 9th. Doing that gives you two majority minority districts and increases the Black population to 45% in the 12th while leaving the black population in the 13th at 50%. Just a thought, they're pretty minor adjustments.
Judy Maiga
Grosse Ile does NOT belong in this map! We are a downriver community - we share police and EMS resources with Trenton, Wyandotte, Southgate etc. We share a river front with massive concerns about the cleanup of McLouth steel. PLEASE remove Grosse Ile from this district. The shape is wrong, the thinking is wrong.
Mary Moylan
Combining the rural areas of St. Charles and surrounding areas with Flint is completely wrong and is just an attempt to dilute the votes toward the Dems. Separate Flint out from these areas and combine the rural parts with the areas they have more in common with. Isn't that what your 'Communities of Interest' is all about?
Lynn Blasey
Thank you for keeping the Bangladeshi & Yemeni communities in/around Hamtramck together in one united voting bloc with this map.
kathleen curell
Thank you for this congressional map! It acknowledges the cities that make up Mid Michigan and that share common interests in countless ways. I am so looking forward to equal representation for the Tri cities and Flint. Thank you again for all the hard and vital work you are doing.
Merlin Steffes
The democrats are gerrymandering with the 3rd.
Mike
I see comments from people from Midland saying we are similar to Saginaw and Flint. This can't be farther from the truth. We have no similarities with these two cities. Their big issues are poor schools and high crime rates. Midland has some of the best schools and a very low crime rate. People in Midland do not typically go shopping in Flint or Saginaw. This is just not accurate at all. We have much more in common with the rural counties of Gladwin, Isabella and Arenac counties especially because of the ongoing issues with the dams and flooding.
Jim Morrissey
This is a good map because it keeps Midland with the other urban parts of MidMichigan. Midland is home to 3 Fortune 500 companies, a large cultural center and a large hospital center. Midland is not rural and should be represented with other urban areas.
Molly Morrissey
Thank you for recognizing Midland as a vital part of the Tri-Cities. Midland needs a representative that knows the needs of a city just as the rural parts of Midland and Bay Counties need a representative that will fight for their needs.
Lynn Pottenger
This map (#188) looks pretty good to me. I have resided in Midland for a long time and I can assure you that we are NOT a rural community. Midland has a strong community of interest with the Tri-Cities: Bay City, Midland, and Saginaw, and this map preserves and honors that COI! You’ve read about the shared interests—from economic, industrial, cultural, and educational—there is also a shared airport, MBS. While some folks are complaining about not keeping a watershed intact, they are forgetting that the flooding continued on down the watershed all the way to the mouth of the Saginaw River in Bay City. The lines have to be drawn somewhere and it makes sense to me to keep the suburban/urban character of Midland, Bay City, and Saginaw together under a single Michigan Congressional district as District 5 proposed by this map. Thank-you for your efforts in proposing fair, non-political, unbiased maps. We really need them!
cheryl scales
This makes sense. Keep the City of Rockford with Kent County and Grand Rapids. It would be better if Algoma and Courtland Township were with this area too
Bonnie Jill Haver-Crissman
The Congressional map for #5 is an excellent configuration for the future of our area and could make our representation much more responsive to all our community which is the hope of Proposal 18-2. Calls to keep Midland with the rural counties are calls to keep the status quo. Michiganders voted for fair maps in 2018 -- we are tired of representatives in comfortable districts that let them ignore our issues. This configuration keeps the entire eastern part of the watershed together. It is also relatively compact and keeps our communities of interest together. This is a fair map for our area. Thank you and good luck to us all!
Jack Bengtsson
This is probably the best map I've seen so far. It isn't perfect, but that's okay, as there is no such thing. But, this goes a long way toward addressing a lot of comments that I've read. Apparently, you've been listening. I did notice some population discrepancies between your data and Dave's Redistricting. And, there is Chester Township in Ottawa County that seems to have been separated from both the 3rd and the 6th. That shouldn't be. I have kind of remedied that situation, and the population on a duplicate map in Dave's redistricting (https://davesredistricting.org/join/84dbf07c-a6d0-4a50-80da-32c3ac365286). So, I would say this particular map is very close and probably a keeper, with a couple minor adjustments perhaps.
jane scott
Do not like that Midland County is broken up and we are separated from our upstream watershed communites. Midland county needs to remain whole and with Gladwin county.
Cathy Leikhim
This map should not be considered at all. It splits Midland in half. Midland County should remain whole and aligned to Gladwin County in any version of this map. Anything less will result in a major setback to the flood recovery and management process.
Carol Heron
I think this map is quite an improvement. It keeps the tri-cities/counties together with Flint/Genesee which satisfies our community of interest. Further our CD is across 4 counties, not eight, which is another improvement. For federal representation, this map makes good sense. Thank you.
Trenton Berry
I like this district that Commissioner Eid has created. It keeps Midland with the Tri-Cities and Flint. I know there are many comments about keeping Midland whole though. A suggestion would be to take townships out of western Saginaw County rather than western Midland County. Whatever happens with that, I agree with this configuration or the one that I stated previously.
Barbara
Great job, commissioners. Thank you for keeping the Grand Rapids metro area within its own Congressional district. This is obviously a COI that should be kept intact @ the Congressional level.
Benjamin Greene
You have an empty precinct here. Is this meant to go with district 7?
Scott Stewart
I think including Southfield with its other southern Oakland County communities makes the most sense. It is very much aligned there, particularly with Ferndale, Oak Park, etc.
Luke Dornon
If the commission insists on drawing districts apparently exclusively to include two urban areas (one can only see this as a partisan gerrymander) why maintain any pretense of geographical continuity? Cut out the rural 'bridge' and just make a district out of urban islands.
Chris Andrews
Thanks for your hard work! Unfortunately, I can't give meaningful input because I don't have access to whether this continues to give a disproportionate advantage to one party. If anyone has a link to PlanScore, that would be helpful!
Anthony Scannell
I think this is a much better configuration for Wayne county than in the collaboratively-drawn Congressional map.
Joey Segal
Thank you for keeping Battle Creek and Kalamazoo together. Our communities are closely intertwined and we share an airport, watershed council, and several economic development projects. It would be absurd to split us up.
Latasha Boland
I live in Norton Shores and work in Muskegon public schools and I strongly support this map. Our school district is a majority students of color including one third Black and 10% Latinx. Nearly 90% of our students receive free or reduced lunch and 25% don't have internet at home. This is the reality of living in a community faced with historical racism and disinvestment. Our kids face real challenges that students in white, more affluent schools generally do not. It is essential that we be grouped with other diverse communities facing similar challenges so that we will have a representative who is fighting for our kids and making sure we have the funding we need to give them the same opportunities their white peers have. #BlackKidsMatter
Kris R
This map is by far the best so far. I strongly encourage the commission to start working off this plan moving forward. It reflects communities of interest so much better than any of the other plans the commission has put forth. It also scores very very well on partisan fairness metrics. Great job!
Alexander Gavulic
District 9 can be better drawn to unite the Detroit exurbs in northern and western Oakland County rather than combining them with the thumb. As someone from Independence Township, I do not have any mutual interests (economic, political, or otherwise) with communities in the thumb, but rather those in Oakland County like Rochester Hills, Novi, Wixom, West Bloomfield, and Pontiac. The population loss in District 10 can be offset by adding Utica, Clinton Township, etc. to 10 and Troy to 11. The new District 9 would unite the Oakland County exurban areas of metro Detroit and would be highly competitive on a partisan level, while still allowing a VRA district to unite Southfield and Detroit. An image of such a proposed district is attached.
Alexander Gavulic
District 9 can be better drawn to unite the Detroit exurbs in northern and western Oakland County rather than combining them with the thumb. As someone from Independence Township, I do not have any mutual interests (economic, political, or otherwise) with communities in the thumb, but rather those in Oakland County like Rochester Hills, Novi, Wixom, West Bloomfield, and Pontiac.
The population loss in District 10 can be offset by adding Utica, Clinton Township, etc. to 10 and Troy to 11. The new District 9 would unite the Oakland County exurban areas of metro Detroit and would be highly competitive on a partisan level, while still allowing a VRA district to unite Southfield and Detroit.
An image of such a proposed district is attached.
Alexander Karpinski
I like the way District 11 represents the areas of Oakland and Macomb county that I have an interest in. It is especially aligned with the government and industrial defense communities of Southeast Michigan/Metro Detroit. My wife and I have family all across District 10 and I believe it does a good job at joining the mutual interests of the Thumb communities, Eastern Michigan-Canadian border communities, and Lake St. Clair communities outside of Metro Detroit.
Deborah Lynn Baker
I do not like this map. I do not feel that my voice will be heard if you combine Kalamazoo & Battle Creek together.
Carolyn Young
Oakland Twp identifies more with rochester and lake orion areas rather than the thumb
Ted Dyson
This district 3 look like the gerrymandering of the "bad old days". This is not acceptable for Muskegon County. Our intact county is a "community of interest". We need to be all in one district and ideally joined with other lakeshore communities who have shared interests such as invasive species, shoreline erosion, water quality etc. Grand Rapids is a land-locked major metropolitan area, much bigger than us. Muskegon would get lost in the shuffle and ignored if a portion of our county is carved off to be "packed" with them.
Christopher Khorey
Love this map! It solves a lot of the issues that the Commission was struggling with. Plus it puts the district numbers in the same places they have been historically (UP in 1, GR in 3, Flint in 5, etc).
Each district works, in my opinion. 1 is a rural "Up North" district. 2 unifies rural areas in West Michigan. 3 is Grand Rapids and Muskegon without being a wacky shape and keeps Ottawa County communities of interest together. 4 keeps the Lansing area together and keeps Livingston County together. 5 keeps Flint, Saginaw, Bay City, and Midland together without cutting Midland off from most of its county. 6 unifies Kalamazoo and Battle Creek, keeps lakeshore communities together (though maybe tweak the boundary near Benton Harbor/St Joseph? It kind of breaks that area up), and keeps southern Ottawa County together. 7 unifies the rural "southern tier." 8 is a logical Ann Arbor-based district. 9 is a logical Oakland County district. 11 is a logical Macomb County district (plus Rochester Hills, which works). 12 and 13 are Detroit-based VRA districts.
I'd be happy with the commission adopting this map right now!
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