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George Higgins
This is the map I support, but I agree with others that more of Warren should be included in HD 13. Specifically, Precinct 13 and Precinct 16 make more sense in HD 13 than they do in HD 11 if you walk the neighborhoods and look at the housing stock and COIs in the area. Precinct 13 is home to the Warren Woods Education Center, and the rest of the WW district is already in HD 13 on this map. This change would also have the effect of making HD 11 an even more solid opportunity district, but I know the numbers have to balance for that district too and that is something you have to consider if you take those precincts out of 11 and put them in 13. But I think it would also put the Detroiters who voiced concerns about a district crossing 8 mile more at ease with 2 less precincts of Warren in 11.
Precinct 20 and 37 in HD 14 also belong in HD 13 as they are east of Van Dyke, which serves as the dividing line between east and west Warren. This map makes HD 13 an east Warren/Roseville and SCS district, so anything in Warren east of Van Dyke and north of 696 that's not already in 58, which should not be changed, should go into district 13. This change would keep the neighborhoods that cluster around Martin Road from Hayes to Van Dyke in Warren together.
Good Shepherd Lutheran Church Detroit/ NMPDA
To Commissioner Kellom and team Commissioners, I genuinely thank each of you for your time and efforts in presenting all ten Districts with the options of various maps that best fit their interests. I personally believe that the Motown Sound Map serves as a good representation for Black Voters that is fair and balanced. In 2018, voters of color made it clear that we wanted maps that reflect communities of interest and not favor one party over another. We would like to see that Black Detroiters do not have less representation in 2024 than we had in 2012. WE SUPPORT THE MOTOWN SOUND MAP.
THANK YOU
Nicholas D. Barnes
See Motown Sound Redraw 16-18 in the other comment portal to see how we can get better VRA districts in the West Detroit, Redford, and Southfield areas. I attached the shape file for reference.
Caitlin Goedert
This map best meets the VRA guidelines. Though the breakup of Warren the bigger picture of maintaining fairness throughout the rest of the map outweighs this issue. This map also has the best racial fairness where the residents of Detroit will be able to elect representatives that truly reflect their communities and values
Henry Duong
I support Motown Sound because it will best keep my neighborhood and communities together. My city of Madison Heights is home to a large number of AAPI businesses and residents and this map will keep these groups intact. I hope MICRC chooses this map to present to the court. Thank you!
Murray A Gorchow
I think this map best follows the VRA guidelines while respecting partisan fairness.
Murray A Gorchow
I think this map best follows the VRA guidelines while respecting partisan fairness.
Diane Kinnamon
The Motown Sound map meets the criteria for the VRA, but modifications to increase partisan fairness would be an improvement.
Brenda Shufelt
This Map is the best of the lot in terms of bring nonpartisan and upholding the Voters Rights Act but it does need some changes to be the best we could have for Michigan Voters.
Victor Jimenez
As my community of interest is Southwest Detroit, I think its important to keep it all together. Especially its oldest neighborhood in Corktown. Corktown is historically a part of Southwest Detroit and it needs to stay that way. Also, I dont think dearborns district needs to cut off onto dix and the tail end of the springwells like it currently does.
Karl T. Dorn
Like I spoke about yesterday, this district 13 could look similar to how you drew district 13 on your Willow map. It would include the same parts of Warren and Roseville as this map, the only switch would be including part of Eastpointe since the St. Clair Shores area would now be included in the lakeshore COI of district 10. To do that, you can narrow the boundaries of the district closer to Edsel Ford Hwy, and use the city lines between Roseville and St. Clair Shores as a boundary. If you do that you see Groesbeck Ave. and Gratiot Ave. are the main thoroughfares that pick back up at the south end of this district. When you look up to the next district, district 62, you can see that the main roads flow right into that district and show again the transportation routes.
Virginia Preuss
This appears to be the best map when it comes to Black Opportunity Districts and Partisan Fairness. I would hope that gives the added benefit of being able to be implemented without running into issues, which I think is so important during this very busy election year.
Ryan Reese
My preferred map. It is the best of a difficult situation. The permeable barrier of 8 mile is moved past to match actual COIs without disenfranchising voters unnecessarily. We see far less packing of COI votes along the eastern half of Detroit, and more mediated percentages, permitting 11 districts of opportunity (not the most of the maps, but a better representation than some of the worst maps, and likely the best number that will pass legal muster at this time).
The breakup of 9, 10 and 12 generally favors appropriate partisan fairness and does not impede CoI voter recognition while this map makes an effort to address at least some of the concerns of voters in the Dearborn area.
This map is not perfect, but it certainly seems to be the best option that I am seeing.
Karl T. Dorn
I like this map overall, but Motown Sound district 12 sticks out when it comes to the eye test. It stretches from the middle and east side of Detroit, upward and then cuts horizontally out to the shoreline. With it starting in the middle of Detroit, it picks up various neighborhoods but it then cuts through some main traffic routes and excludes other city neighborhoods nearby. The commission should look at how it drew this district number in your Water Lily and Willow maps - it is more compact in those maps. To adjust it, you can just follow the main roads in the district. Gratiot Ave., Harper Ave., and Kelly Rd. are all major roads that help people get to work and home and to businesses, places of worship, etc. When you widen the boundaries to include the rest of the east side you can keep those community COI together, you will just have to adjust the northern district boundaries.
This new district 10 extends the Motown Sound lakeshore COI district that you created by following the main roads north. District 10 would now have territory that was previously included in district 12. To account for that, there is a logical split you can use by following municipal lines between Detroit and the Grosse Pointes, and St. Clair Shores in the north end of the district. If you use the main roads and track boundaries at road markers (9 Mile Rd as a barrier at Gratiot, Stephens Rd. as the north boundary for Kelly Rd., and follow Harper Ave up to 10 Mile Rd.) you could keep the district more compact. Just by moving the district boundary line east to the Detroit city line, you could then bring back more of those Detroit neighborhoods into one district.
Karl T. Dorn
This configuration recognizes the lakeshore COI between St. Clair Shores and the Grosse Pointes, and keeps all five Grosse Pointe cities in the same district. From the
original Motown Sound map, if you just follow the main roads - Jefferson Ave until it turns into Lakeshore, along with Harper Ave., - you can extend the boundaries of
the district north to capture much of the lakeshore COI. Once you get to St Clair
Shores, Greater Mack and Little Mack are the main north-south roads, and once you get to 12 Mile Rd. you are close to enough population size for one district. These
boundaries can accommodate a lakeshore COI that spans Wayne and Macomb counties.
Anne Campbell
In reviewing all of the map choices, this map appears to be the best one in terms of racial equity/fairness and partisan fairness. There is a need for improvement so that there can be Black representation without putting the population all in large districts or spreading it out so that there cannot be adequate representation. This map also appears to minimize partisan issues the most ( the Willow map seems the worst)
Charlene Vanacker
This appears to be the best map but it should be tweaked to provide more partisan fairness.
Alexander King
I am a Livonia resident and believe that Motown Sound is the best option for partisan fairness. It was a collaboration between members of the commission and has 12 black opportunity districts, which will allow the city of Detroit to elect representatives that truly address the needs of the diverse communities. I also like that my district, District 17, which includes East Livonia and West Redford, will be ethnically diverse. As a graduate of U of D Jesuit High School at 7 Mile and Livernois, I support the efforts of the bipartisan commission to draw fair, equitable maps that give voters, not politicians more power to elect our representatives.
Brenda Thompson
Good morning Commissioner,
I am coming to you as a 3rd generational Detroiter, Block Club Vice President and Business Owner on the Westside of Detroit. My recommendation is to select the Motown Sound Maps and if lines are still being edited, add streets south of Warren and west of Southfield, stoping south of Ford. The district lines not should not extend so far north to 7mile but be reduced to 6 mile or Fenkell. Thank you for the opportunity to have our input included.
Roslyn M. Ogburn
Hello Commissioners,
I am a 4th generational Detroiter, Mother of 5, Block Club President on Warwick, Community Leader and Home owner on the Westside of Detroit for 11 years, Warrendale/Cody Rouge community, Community of Interest. I support the Motown Sound Redistricting new suggested Map due to the population count, this option is the only map I believe keeps my community, A Community of Interest , Warrendale boundaries the most intact. If additional changes could be made I recommend adding back all streets west of Southfied and south of Warren, Rouge Park and balancing out with the reduction at the north boundaries from 7 mile to Fenkell. Also I agree with the Woman that spoke earlier, this process should of began with the original maps from 2022 and I also believe that the proposed lines to be changed were drawn by racial bias and demographics of communities of colors. Black communities have been disadvantaged and representation has been neglectful. I hope the residents comments and feed back is useful towards selecting the maps the residents has suggested, recommended and asked for.
lori A Boyce
also, this map appears to be much more compact than other maps. Definitely this is the one that should be used and tweaked to be more partisan fair at the same time.
Shomari Manu Jabulani
The Motown provides for 10 districts with greater than 50% African American population which allows for better representation in the State of Michigan. Also, Royal Oak TWP is intact and more culturally aligned with Detroit. I do see the argument that some Michiganders mention regarding Livonia.
Jay Meeks
I think this map is a good compromise.
lori A Boyce
Thank you to the Commission. This is the best of the 10 maps for VRA compliance, the number of opportunity districts, and what is of most importance to me, partisan fairness. I would encourage the commission to make any tweaks possible to make the map even fairer without hurting VRA compliance or decreasing the number of opportunity districts. Please do your best to make the Motown Sound as fair with respect to partisanship as possible. This was very important to the people that signed petitions to get the redistricting commission on the 2018 ballot to begin with, including myself.
Julie Schmittdiel
I feel that Motown Sound is the fairest map and meets the conditions that MICRC require.
Paul Stefani
Motown Sounds is the best map to represent district 13, As a resident I want my district to fairly represent the area.
Nomi Joyrich
Definitely the best of all the map options! Please adopt this map!
Nomi Joyrich
Good number of Black Opportunity Districts
Nomi Joyrich
Decent partisan fairness
jacqueline
This is my preferred map, Motown Sound.
Gregory Clark
Probably the best of the lot (and of course still not perfect but you will never get perfect).
Lois Maharg
I've taken an interest in the map-drawing process since it began a couple years ago. Although I don't live in the Detroit area, as a Michigander, I do have an interest in the commission drawing maps that afford minority residents the opportunity to elect representatives of their choice AND score high on partisan fairness. Of all the new maps submitted for public comment so far, the Motown Sound map does both these things the best. (And ya gotta love the name!) Please choose Motown Sound as Michigan's new map of state house districts.
Mary Jo Durivage
Several of the commenters this morning support the Motown Sound map. One of the commissioners asked where the population be moved to accommodate adding Melvindale to Dearborn. I suggest taking more of West Dearborn. Many folks, including neighbors in River Bend area west of Military, are currently in Dearborn Heights district 15. So the line could be drawn east of Military to wherever it would need to be.
Joe Hunt
Bad map. My district 14 leeches into Oakland County and District 11 South Warren / North Detroit are examples of the compact mapping spanning into other counties. Any thoughtful acceptable map would not cross county borders where a candidate has to deal with multiple city/ county election officials.
Lauren Lisi
Thank you to the Commission. This is the best of the 10 maps for VRA compliance, the number of opportunity districts, and what is of most importance to me, partisan fairness. I would encourage the commission to make any tweaks possible to make the map even fairer without hurting VRA compliance or decreasing the number of opportunity districts. As a petition circulator for the ballot initiative that led to creation of the commission I know that the overwhelming majority of Michiganders signing my petitions did so because they wanted maps that were fair. Please do your best to make the Motown Sound as fair with respect to partisanship as possible.
Sydney LaDuke
I like that this proposed map keeps the neighborhood of East English Village (Cadieux --> E. Outer Drive/Whittier and Mack --> Harper) intact. I really like that this proposal keeps the 3 Detroit neighborhoods of East English Village, Cornerstone Village, and Morningside intact. This may be my favorite map because it combines my neighborhood with the Grosse Pointes. I do my grocery shopping, eat out at restaurants, go to the post office, and work out in the Grosse Pointes and very much consider them as part of my community.
KAREN STIEBER
I think the map looks good.
Niko Barnes
I believe while the current map shows promise, there is room for improvement, particularly in adjusting the districts to better reflect and enhance Black Voting Age Population (BVAP) representation (refer to the attached image). Through strategic restructuring of these districts, it is possible to elevate BVAP while maintaining the cohesion of Communities of Interest (COIs) and ensuring partisan fairness remains unaffected. For a comprehensive examination, please review the Passion Fruit map available on another portal.
Susan Hayden
This map does the best job of fulfilling the court-ordered VRA requirements and maintaining partisan fairness.
Susan Hayden
This map does the best job of fulfilling the court-ordered VRA requirements and maintaining partisan fairness.
Paula Whitworth Smith
This map is most agreeable.
Chris Andrews
The Motown Sound map addresses the issues raised by the courts. The commissioners should find ways to maintain those fixes while eliminating the additional partisan bias that has been added in the process. Modest changes to districts, perhaps in the suburbs, could do that without diminishing Black voters' ability to elect the candidates of their choice. Ask your experts to provide options. Thank you.
Mary Jo Durivage
I like that the map kept Marygrove and Fitzgerald area are together. I went to Marygrove and follow its programs etc.
I like Dearborn's mapping - clean boundary at Wyoming. Looking at the different scores, it looks like this map has the highest scores. Hopefully, it will meet the judicial challenge.
George Higgins
I grew up at Martin and Schoenherr and feel this is a good map that reflects well on the commissioners who collaborated to draw it. District 11 does a good job of reflecting the COI that exists on both sides of 8 mile, and District 13 is drawn in a way that groups together eastern Warren with Roseville and part of Saint Clair Shores which would give east siders in Warren and those neighboring communities better representation.
Kevin Higgins
I like the map because it reflects the community of interest that I've observed between South Warren and North Detroit.
Mary Ann Fontana
I think this is the fairest map.
Juliet Hentschel
I like the Motown map as it keeps the VRA requirements and is also maintaining partisan fairness.
Michael Howard II
I know this is not one of the districts a part of the lawsuit, but this district breaks Warren up and does not give Warren a fair shake. It breaks up several COI
Michael Howard II
This breaks up the Fitzgerald School into two different house districts and splits up the Bengali community. This area it close to being drawn well, but more of Warren needs to be in the district
Michael Howard II
This will break Warren into 4 districts which will effectively do to Warren and SC Shores what just happened to Detroit.
Lori Stone
Warren is the third largest city in Michigan this map cracks Warren into 4 districts and it is unclear if Warren would have a majority representation in ANY of the districts
Timothy J Sawmiller
I prefer the Motown Sound map. It seems to be the most logical by not stretching districts across communities with little or nothing in common as was done in the original mapping.
rose burke
Maintains partisan fairness
Sharon Baseman
I really think is the best of the 10 final maps. I hope this one is selected. It seems like it would be likely to be approved.
Mary Boyd
I really like the way this map keeps the whole lower east side together. I live in McDougall-Hunt and we are often cut in half by Gratiot. Even including downtown and midtown, by having the other half of the district cover regular neighborhoods, I think we will get enough attention from your elected officials, not just downtown interests. I also like that this map doesn't favor a political party and doesn't dilute the power oof minorities like the last district!
Jasmine Kaltenbach
I live in the historic atkinson neighborhood in Detroit and I love the Motown Sound map and what you've done with district 8. I frequently go to Congregation Coffee, the park next to it, and up into Ferndale and Pleasant Ridge which are all in the district. Additionally, Motown Sound seems to have the best partisan fairness of any of the maps and that's extremely important to me.
NORMAN CLEMENT
This map does keep some COIs together but splits others. Especially districts 5 and 8, right down the Livernois Avenue of fashion.
Mari Rymar
I've been studying the maps and I think you've done well on this map and particularly this district really brings it together. Good job!
Kelly Jones
This map makes the most sense because it meets the criteria.
Deborah Bohm-Rosenman
This map keeps the Communities of Interest together and is closely related to partisan fairness.
Deborah Bohm-Rosenman
I think this map best follows the VRA guidelines while respecting partisan fairness.
David Bell
I totally support this map. i believe this was drawn out with voters interest in mine. Like for example District 1 is a representation of many disverse races and cultures that share concerns like pollution water quality and economic wealth. I currently live in Inkster and I love these lines as well.
Mary Ann Fontana
I support this map. I think it keeps COIs together and follows the VRA guidelines.
Jeremy Singer
I support this map! I think it's great it was drawn by a Detroiter and creates many minority opportunity districts. I made a mistake with my prior comment so please disregard my prior comment.
Jeremy Singer
I don't support the way contiguous communities are divided here.
dina shargabian
This map meets the criteria and is the best option.
Michael J Howard II
This map is a notable example of collaborative effort, guided by the leadership of a proud Detroiter. Thank you Commissioner Kellom's contribution to its development is greatly appreciated.
Kristine McLonis
Another map in which Oak and Huntington Woods are in separate districts. Both of these cities have a strong Jewish population and should be considered a community of interest.
I do like that the proposed map which includes Ferndale and Pleasant Ridge incorporates a large portion of Detroit and retains to a degree the "bacon strip” design that was part of the previously-approved maps.
Joseph Fresard
Disregards the lakeshore COI and dilutes Detroit districts by going up into the suburbs, basically very similar to the unconstitutional maps, just with different areas of Detroit combing with the GP's and SCS
James Regis III
I like this map best as it is similar to the Spirit of Detroit map, but does a better job of complying with the VRA.
Faye Al-Asir
This is a great configuration for the MENA community. I like that It has one district being all of Dearborn and the other being a combination of West Dearborn and Dearborn Heights. Try to see if it is possible to add Melvindale back to district 3, as to not split up our community of interest.
Joshua Brandon
Madison Heights and Hazel Park have a lot more income with that section of Warren than Ferndale. They should be considered a community of interest.
Lizzy Metry
Don't split Grosse Pointe Woods. Don't Split the Grosse Pointes. Don't split St. Clair Shores.
The Grosse Pointes should be with St. Clair Shores.
Erin
AWFUL. Splits St Clair Shores into 3 crazy districts. Splits up the Grosse Pointes. Separates St. Clair Shores from the Grosse Pointes, even though everyone knows they belong together. This district is just plain awful.
Robert Dindoffer
As an additional note - The two folks from Harper Woods, who are most adamant about being tied-in with the Grosse Pointes are both elected politicians. They are both residents, so their opinions count, but not more than the dozens of residents of St. Clair Shores and the Grosse Pointes, who said they wanted to be together throughout the first round of redistricting.
Gerianne LaPratt
This map keeps the COI together except for a potion of Grosse Pointe Woods. It's important to keep all of Wayne County with Wayne County.
Robert Dindoffer
This district and the neighboring districts break up multiple Communities of Interest. It breaks up the traditional Lakeshore COI between the Grosse Pointes and St. Clair Shores. In fact, St. Clair Shores is split across 3 different districts and the Grosse Pointes are split across 2 districts. And, despite all of that, the District fails to perform as an opportunity district based on the data provided to the commission. Thus, there is no VRA compliance reason to create a district that hacks up our community in this way.
Vivian M Sawicki
Although this map does keep the traditional COI in place between Harper Woods, Grosse Pointe Woods and Shores, it seems to arbitrarily cut a portion of the city of Grosse Pointe Woods and does not include the traditional interest with St. Clair Shores.