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Anthony Borden
This map holds the Downriver community together in an important way. Having house and senate maps that follow similar lines allows Reps and Senators to work together on community issues. To split Wyandotte off in a Senate District, but not a House District only serves to worsen Govt. Services to the residents.
Kristine Mconis
In light of the revision of the Heron map which has made it worse interms of partisan fairness, I wanted to speak again in favor of this map. Also, I had not mentioned in my earlier comments that this map keeps together the LGBTQ communities in Ferndale and Detroit. This is very important in the current climate where the rights of LGBTQ persons are at great risk.
Nicole Wells Stallworth
I am writing in favor of the Szetela Map which seems to be the most fair. Map #404, Szetela, appears to connect communities of interest in common districts allowing their rights under the Voting Rights Act to be realized. This map would keep key communities in Oakland County like Pontiac, Auburn Hills, and Southfield together, allowing voters access to equal opportunity to elect a candidate of their choice. Also, this map seems to represent the most partisan fairness. Sincerely, Nicole Wells Stallworth
Lauren Lisi
I prefer this version of Szetela to the new version. It keeps all of Huntington Woods together. However, if it can't be this version of Szetela then I still prefer Szetela (409). This puts us together with Royal Oak where I have family and Warren where I have friends. It is a fair map. Fairness is sooooo important.
DianaC
TOP MAP. This map is one of the BEST in the group. The western wayne and Novi plus area is the best grouping for that district. It should NOT go up to orchard lake like a fish hook like in other maps. For fairness: Love the 8 mile / county line cut to the east, and seeing that the western wayne suburbs will not take away from voter choice in Detroit's west end that deserve a rep who cares about that area specifically.
Jeanette A LaMere
Szetla is clearly the most fair map, which is what we had in mind when we passed Prop 2.
Claire S Vial
this looks fair to me
Noah
Chaldean people are ignored in this map. Choose either Cardinal, Dove, Lange or Curry. Thanks Commissioners!
Eliyah F.
Please don't ignore Chaldean voices! This map divides Chaldeans. Please read this submission: https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/f10285. Thanks commissioners!
Jonah
This map disenfranchises the Chaldean community. Please reject it. Best maps are Cardinal, Dove, Lange, and Curry that do not split Chaldean voices.
Barbara Faller
Really think this did a good job with partisan fairness
Luca M.
Commissioners, remember COI is much more important than "Partisan Fairness" that some are saying. This map hurt my Chaldean people. Cardinal is a good and fair map. Dove, Lange, and Curry is also good and fair map. Hear our voices please! Heron, Szetela and Starling hurts Chaldean people.
Chaldean Voices Matter
The Churches we want to be represented in one district are: Saint Joseph Chaldean Church, Saint George Chaldean Church and Holy Martyrs Chaldean Church. Cardinal district 10 achieves this! It is also scores high on Partisan Fairness. Cardinal is the way to go commissioners! :) Thank you again for all your hard work!
Chaldean Voices Matter
I see N. Joyrich knows nothing about our Chaldean community. This map divides our people, our churches and our voice. So it cannot be good for our community. As I have said before, Where there is the Church, There is the Community! I am saddened to see there are prejudice people targeting our Chaldean community and trying to split our voices...
Bernadette L.
This a very bad map for Chaldeans. This divides our community and our Churches. Our people want to have a voice. The best map for us is Cardinal with district 10. Please listen to us Chaldeans rather than some bad actors who know nothing about our community. A good read regarding what we really want can be found in this comment on MICRC portal: https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/f10285
Liz Moss
This seems like a bad split when there has been so much support for the chaldean community of interest.
Liz Moss
Taylor being chopped in half? Why is Taylor being screwed again?
Nomi Joyrich
Love that this is a strong voice for Romulus! Due to the airport, Romulans have some unique issues and they are a COI that needs to be kept together.
Nomi Joyrich
Love that this links Dearborn and Dearborn Heights. Strong maps for the Arab American community.
N Joyrich
I love that the Chaldean Community Foundation is with a new Chaldean housing community. This is a very strong map for the Chaldean community.
Dash Wideman
I know people forget about Detroit. But this looks not good. It is all choppy and random. These neighborhood combos are different. Neighborhoods like each other should be the same map not this.
Hanna Jarbour
Question: How do you justify doing this to our Chaldean community?
Answer: You can't!! Our community should be valued. We matter more than this map seems to believe. I ask the remaining commissioners not targeting my community to stand firm against any map that hurts our community!
Chaldean Voices Matter
Hi commissioners! Please read the letter, link at the end of this comment, by Mr. Martin Manna before your deliberations next week. Please do not marginalize Chaldeans... Reject Heron/Szetela/Starling and adopt Cardinal. https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/f10285
Eliyah F.
Reject Szetela, Heron and Starling the same way these maps rejects my Chaldean people. Cardinal District 10 respects Chaldeans.
Sally Y
I forgot to mention, Chaldeans want Cardinal! It is fair, and it respects all COIs as well.
Sally Y
This map divides the Chaldean community into 3. As a Chaldean, I am really appalled that there are people on here claiming this map helps Chaldeans when it clearly divides Chaldeans. Please reject Heron, Szetela and Starling maps. Thanks commissioners for all your hard work!
Jason Burbo
This map appears to be a marginal improvement over the current Linden map as far as partisan fairness is concerned.
Aziza Ulaby
Our map is being redrawn to improve partisan fairness. This map accomplishes that goal.
Chaldean Voices Matter
I want make this simple, while there are few acceptable maps that Chaldeans can live with, the 2 that must be rejected are Heron and Szetela. Our number 1 choice is Cardinal! Thanks commissioners! :) No one likes Starling anyway so dont choose Starling either!
Chaldean Voices Matter
I want make this simple, while there are few acceptable maps that Chaldeans can live with, the 2 that must be rejected are Heron and Szetela. Our number 1 choice is Cardinal! Thanks commissioners! :)
Chaldean Voices Matter
Mr. Martin Manna serves as Chaldean American Chamber of Commerce and Chaldean Community Foundation. Please Read his letter on the MICRC public comments portal and REJECT Heron and Szetela maps! Choose Cardinal. Thank you commissioners! https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/f10285
Bernadette L.
Reject this map! Chaldeans are being ignored with this map. Please hear our voices commissioners! Choose Cardinal map.
Chaldean Voices Matter
I just read the letter of Mr. Martin Manna who serves Chaldean American Chamber of Commerce and Chaldean Community Foundation. This letter can be found on the MICRC public comments portal. I invite you commissioners to read it and REJECT This map! https://www.michigan-mapping.org/submission/f10285
Sarah Abbott Boerema
This map hurts COIs in the Chaldean, Arab, and Detroit neighborhoods. The only selling point of this map is the partisan fairness score. That's because it destroys communities of interest to get to this point, which violates the Michigan State Constitution's ranked criteria. It should be rejected. COIs still matter. #ShowUpSpeakUp
Justine True
This looks like someone who tried to chop up communities of interest to get a "different" partisan fairness goal. Taylor has a chance to be fixed, but I guess that's too hard. It splits up other communities of interest in Oakland as other comments have said. But the big picture: communities rank higher than partisan fairness, so the goal of this whole map was wrong to begin with.
Chaldean Voices Matter
I am really sad to see many people are prejudice against my Chaldeans community. They are initially promoting a 2 maps (Heron and Szetela) that specifically hurts Chaldeans. We are peaceful people. All we ask for is one district. Cardinal district 10 is the best representation for Chaldeans. Those who claim Szetela and Heron benefit Chaldeans are being deceptive. Please commissioners choose Cardinal. Thank you commissioners for all your hard work commissioners.
S. Mannan
This attacking of my people could not be any more obvious..... You should read Martin's letter from our community foundation before you vote for a map that hurts my people like this map is attempting to do.
Deq Martin
the mappers ever been to Detroit? This is dumb. Puts ppl not in the good nghbrhoods.
Al Abdou
This is another map where people from the other parts of the state are shouting "partisan fairness" even though they don't live over here, they don't know what's best for our region and our communities.
Al Abdou
This is a disenfranching map to say the least. Hurts Chaldean Americans pretty clearly.
Erica Peresman
I support this map because it scores high on partisan fairness, and that is very important to me. When the citizens of Michigan passed Prop 2, we voted overwhelmingly for our political power to be allocated fairly. If the maps advantage one political party over another, the outcomes in Lansing will not reflect our communities accurately. The Commission must follow ALL the criteria in the Constitution, including the partisan fairness requirement.
I live in Birmingham, and my family are members of a Jewish congregation in Troy. Our congregation has many members in Birmingham, Troy, Rochester, and Rochester Hills. This "east of Woodward" Jewish community, while not large, is a community of interest. Our congregation participates in interfaith events with the richly diverse religious and cultural communities in Troy, since we highly value such diversity. Birmingham has become much more diverse in recent years, and putting Birmingham together with Troy in a Senate district makes sense.
I also support this map because it gives Black voters of Pontiac the best opportunity to elect candidates of their choice. Any map that the Commission chooses must give this community proper representation in our state Senate.
Luca M.
This map is unfair to Chaldeans. It takes away our votes. Please do not choose. Cardinal is fair to Chaldeans and it is partisan fair.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Anyone claiming Heron or Szetela maps keeps the Chaldeans together are being deceptive. Chaldeans are in community of interests are in Sterling Heights and Troy. Heron or Szetela map clearly splits the Chaldean community. Its like if you have people claiming that its good for Arab-Americans to have a map that splits Dearborn and Dearborn Heights. Commissioners, you would immediately have doubt about the seniority of someone claiming that a map splitting Dearborn and Dearborn Heights is good for Arab-Americans. You should also doubt the sincerity of people claiming that splitting Troy and Sterling Heights is good for Chaldean people. Don't be deceived commissioners. Where there is the Church, there is the community.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Where there is the Church, there is the community. This map divide Chaldeans in 3 and splits our vote. Our three Churches in Sterling Heights, Troy and Shelby Township (Border of Rochester Hill) are all in different districts. Chaldeans want one district in Michigan. Cardinal map is the best representation for Chaldeans as it includes all of our Churches in district 10.
Lauren Ruth Johnson
This map is my second favorite map after Heron because it has a high partisan fairness score.
Timothy King
As a resident of the proposed 6th Senate District, I like that it is almost entirely contained in Wayne County. It makes sense in terms of the communities included. I reviewed the VRA and Partisan Fairness reports: I see 4 opportunity districts and a Partisan Fairness data indicating 4 toss up districts, 3 of which are Democratic leaning. There is potential for a 19-19 split with this map.
Mary Combs
This map is 2nd closest to Heron in making sure that the partisan fairness will make sure that everyone’s vote will count.
Noah
This map disenfranchises the Chaldean community. Choose Cardinal instead commissioners.
Darryl Conliffe
Would much prefer a better COI consideration for Farmington & Farmington Hills.
Katie Olsson
Yay! one of 3 maps that improve upon our current map and actually does what 18-2 was intended to do! Good VRA and partisan fairness scores.
Bernadette L.
This is map splits the Chaldean voices in Troy and Sterling Heights. Please reject it.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Chaldeans are not represented in this map. Cardinal map best represent our minority community. Please commissioners, do not disenfranchise us. Choose Cardinal. We like district 10 in Cardinal. District 9 in Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner are also good for Chaldean community but Cardinal is the number 1 choice.
Farrah Ishiyah
Chaldean community of interest is not being represented here. Please reject this map. Chaldean people want the Cardinal map. All 3 of our churches are in District 10. Troy and Sterling Heights should be together.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Anyone claiming Heron or Szetela maps keeps the Chaldeans together are being deceptive. Chaldeans are in community of interests are in Sterling Heights and Troy. Heron or Szetela map clearly splits the Chaldean community. Its like if you have people claiming that its good for Arab-Americans to have a map that splits Dearborn and Dearborn Heights. Commissioners, you would immediately have doubt about the seniority of someone claiming that a map splitting Dearborn and Dearborn Heights is good for Arab-Americans. You should also doubt the sincerity of people claiming that splitting Troy and Sterling Heights is good for Chaldean people. Don't be deceived commissioners. Do not disenfranchise the Chaldean community in Troy and Sterling Heights. Heron or Szetela map marginalized us Chaldeans. Adapt the Cardinal map instead commissioners! Cardinal best represents the Chaldean community. We have 3 Churches in the area, Saint Joseph in Troy, Saint George in the corner of Shelby Township bordering Rochester Hills, Troy and Sterling Heights, and Holy Martyrs in Sterling Heights. Where the Church is at so is the community!
Chaldean Voices Matter
This map says "Chaldeans should be silenced". Please commissioners, do not silence our Chaldean voices. You have a duty to respect all of COIs. Chaldean is a COI in MI. Use the Cardinal map to give Chaldeans a voice in MI!
Luca M.
Chaldeans wants to be heard too. This map does not give us a voice. Its splits Sterling Heights and Troy where our people are at. 3 of our Chaldean Churches are in 3 different districts. Please reject this map. Is it too much to ask for just one Senate District in MI for the Chaldean community. It seems everyone else is getting their district but Chaldeans are not with this map.
Sally Y
Our Chaldean community should be in one District and not 3. This map splits our Chaldean community. Use the Cardinal map as it best represents our Chaldean community of interest.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Commissioner, where the Church is, so is the community. This map puts our 3 Churches, Saint Joseph, Saint George and Holy Martyrs in 3 different districts. Separating our Chaldean community in 3. Dont be deceived by people who claim this map benefits Chaldeans. How does splitting us in 3 benefit us? I prefer the Cardinal map because it includes all of Sterling Heights with all of Troy together. Crane is second option. Our 3 Churches are all in one district. We are stronger in numbers and not divided!
Eliyah F.
This map is bad for Chaldeans. This map does not respect the Chaldeans living in Troy and Sterling Heights. Please use the Cardinal or Crane map as Chaldeans are represented better.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Anyone claiming this keeps the Chaldeans together are being deceptive. Chaldeans are in community of interests are in Sterling Heights, Troy and Rochester Hill. This map clearly splits the community. Its like if you have people claiming that its good for Arab-Americans to be split between Dearborn and Dearborn Heights. Commissioners, you would immediately have doubt about the seniority of someone claiming that a map that splits Dearborn and Dearborn Heights its good for Arab-Americans. You should also doubt the sincerity of people claiming that splitting Troy and Sterling Heights is good for Chaldean people. Don't be deceived please. Do not disenfranchise the Chaldean community. This map marginalized us Chaldeans. Reject this map please commissioners!
Raisha Chowdhury
This map does a great job of ensuring that communities of
color have their voices heard in elections and does well in partisan fairness. Other than this map, the Heron map is also very solid.
Mary Coffey
This map does an excellent job on VRA, partisan fairness, and COI. There are 4 VRA districts and the proposed district 7 has an excellent chance of African-Americans being able to elect a candidate of their choice. It does better than the Linden map on lopsided margins, mean-median difference and the efficiency gap. Commissioner Szetala has incorporated many community members’ comments on their communities of interest. I would like to see one small tweak; I live in the southwestern corner of Farmington Hills; district 13 would be a better fit for our area. If it were possible to move some of the northern part of district 13 to another district to accommodate all of FFH in 13, it would be preferable in my humble opinion. Thank you for your hard work. Please seriously consider this map; it is one of the 2 best in meeting the constitutional criteria.
Ralph Johnson
I think this is the best map overall especially for partisan fairness.
Karen Holman
This map has the best balance of fairness over all and groups me with people who share my school district
Frank Bertram
This map keeps the Warren School district together.
Frank
This map will give black voters the best representation of the maps under consideration.
Wendy Steadman
I like this map. It connects black communities with each other, and does the same for LGBTQ communities. This gives them an appropriately strong voice.
Judithe Stone
Important that it keeps the Chaldean community together which is important.
nomi joyrich
Keeps the Hispanic community together. Does a great job with this COI . Love this map.
David R Hopkinson
It is unfortunate that Linden, the map ruled by the court as needing replacement, may be replaced by a worse map with regard to partisan fairness. This map is one of the two best among those currently being considered.
We amended the MI Constitution to create the Citizens Redistricting Commission who achieved the fairest maps in the nation. Nationwide people concerned about gerrymandering were impressed with what our Commission accomplished. The purpose was not only to allow election results to reflect the votes of the voters but also to enable anyone eligible to vote to have reason to believe that voting is worthwhile. Please keep these goals front and center.
Lynna Kaucheck
This map fairly represents my community.
Sally Y
This map DOES NOT represent my Chaldean community. Very bad map for us! Please listen to us Chaldeans and not people who claim they know what's good for Chaldeans and choosing maps that actually hurt us.
Kenya Willard
The Szetela (404) map in regard to District 8 provides the most partisan fairness. This close packed district supports maintaining the west side of Detroit. This partisan map helps the majority of African American districts to elect candidates of their choice who align with their beliefs and core values. Another non-partisan map will intentionally minimize the African American voting power and preferred candidates.
Eliyah F.
This map splits the Chaldean community. Please reject it. Chaldeans wants to have a voice too. It is unfair that all other community of interests are considered but not the Chaldean community of interest in this map.
Chris Gilmer Hill
pls ignore previous comment - while i was scrolling through just now I noticed I mixed up my comments for 404 and 373. This map actually does a pretty decent job on detroit neighborhood boundaries, so props to comm. Szetela. I would suggest that Southfield and Pontiac shouldn't really be in the same district, however; imo that really leans towards a racial gerrymander in oakland, since they have little in common other than race
Alexandria Adle
The Szetela Map is the best in protecting communities of
interest. For example, it protects Black voters in Oakland County by connecting Pontiac with Southfield. And it makes sure LGBT+ voices are heard by keeping together Ferndale and the Detroit neighborhood of Palmer Park.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Good morning commisioners!
I have concern about 3 maps which disefranchises my Chaldean community. Those 3 maps that splits the Chaldean community are Heron, Szetela and Starling. Please please do not use those 3 maps.
There are 9 other maps that are respects the Chaldean community. Those maps are Cardinal and Finch with District 10 or Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner with District 9.
Chaldeans are a protected minory and we are requesting just one district in MI that respect our community of interests.
On Noverber 4, 2021, you commisioners were discussing Dr. Hanley's analysis that was done on the Chaldean community in Sterling heights during your meeting. Please take a look at her analysis of Sterling Heights again and include the Chaldeans in Troy and Rchester Hills.
East of Sterling heights was not included with the Linden map. Which disenfrenchises the Chaldean community. This is not the first time you have heard this commissioners. I have myself stated this on the Chery V2 map comment portal. which had the same district 10 as Linden, my exact comment was in 2021:
Please include East Sterling Heights with rest of Sterling Heights and Troy. Do not disenfranchise the Chaldean communities living in East of Sterling Heights.
You can see that specific comment on Cherry v2 plan. But East Sterling Heights wasnt included. It was lumped with Detroit and subsequently, the Linden map ws thrown out. Heron also lumps East Sterling Heights with sections of Detroit. Heron should not be considered based on this fact alone. Also for the fact, unlike Linden which consideres the Chaldean community, Heron totally destroys the Chaldean community of interest and therefore does not meet VRA.
Starling and Sztela also splits the Chaldean community. Please go back and look at DR. Hanley's analysis.
You have 9 other maps that respects the Chaldean community. Chooss one of them. I prefer the Cardinal and Finch configuration since all of Sterling Heights is included with Troy.
Chaldeans have been in MI for over 5 decades. We own many businesses. We contribute to MI economy. We are our own community of interest and should not be lumped with other COIs. Please commisioners, eliminate Heron, Szetela and Starling VIOLATES Chaldean rights, suppresses our votes, marginalize us, disenfranchises our people, and splits and dismisses our voices!
Please do not margilize the already ignored Chaldean community. -We are our own community and all we are asking is for one district in MI.
Chaldean voices matter!
Thank you commisioners for all your hard work! And have wonderful rest of your day!
Robert McCraight
The City of Romulus favors this map as it keeps our community whole and in a district with communities similar to ours.
Kurtis Fernandez
This map does the best at protecting communities of interest in SE MI. LGBT+ voices are kept together in Ferndale and Palmer Park (Detroit). And Black voters in Pontiac and Southfield are kept together.
Robert Piper
This map is one of the two best maps along with Heron. It fairly represents a number of communities' interests, and keeps Silver Lake and loon Lake together.
Susan Skidmore
This map is by far one of the two best maps of the current iterations. It is exactly what we had in mind when the amendment was written. It is in my opinion the most fairly drawn map and should be adopted.
Linda Kahn Gale
This is one of the two best maps in partisan fairness ( Heron)This is the best for the LGBTQ community. It gives them a stronger voice and unites Ferndale and Palmer Park and Pontiac, Bloomfield Village, and Southfield. This map keeps communities strong; Asian, Italian,Chaldean, Downriver Districts, Waterway Communities, Lake Communities.
Angela Davenport
Here’s the revised statement:
This is one of the best maps, alongside the Heron map. It offers Pontiac the best chance for representation and gives people of color a strong voice. This map provides fair representation for minorities, including Black and LGBTQ communities. It excels in addressing communities of interest by connecting LGBTQ communities in Ferndale and Palmer Park, giving them the strongest voice. Overall, this map effectively addresses both partisan fairness and the Voting Rights Act, aligning with the MICRC's mission to ensure partisan fairness.
Claudia Kraus Piper
This map keeps the lake communities of Silver Lake and Loon Lake together. This map really addresses different communities of interest better than any other map- communities such as the Asian American , Chaldean, Italian, African American and others.
Laurie Krauth
This map does a great job supporting my community of interest as a kayaker. It brings together Silver Lake, Loon Lake, Proud Lake, the Detroit Riverfront (where I kayak weekly) and Lake Sinclair. It also supports my community of interest in the LGBTQ communities, giving it a voice. Although it was written by an individual, they did a great job taking recommendations to combine the Chaldean, Asian-American, Italian, and Bangladesh communities.
Emily Jernberg
I think this is one of the 2 best maps (after Heron) in terms of fairness and VRA districts. It keeps communities of interest together (certain LGBQT, Asian American of Troy and Sterling Heights, Chaldean communities, black communities). It makes sense, too. I hope you vote for this one.
Susan Andress
I like this map because it improves on partisan fairness and has a the mean % closest to zero of any map
Lisa Goldstein
I think this is one of the best maps for partisan fairness and VRA districts. It improves on partisan fairness compared to the Linden map. Although it does split up my community of Farmington/Farmington Hills, I still support this map because it does the best job of keeping other communities of interest such as Asian American communities of Troy and Sterling Heights together and also provides the greatest chance of the City of Pontiac having black representation.
Chris
This map splits up a number of communities that don't deserve to be divided: Taylor & the downriver community, the Chaldean communities of Troy & Sterling Heights, and Eastpointe has more in common with Warren and Detroit than it does with Sterling Heights.
David Ware
Fairly drawn
Mary Jo Durivage
Although Heron (376) and Kellum (403) seem do well with partisan fairness, I prefer Szetela (404) because it combines Melvindale, Allen Park, and Taylor with the Dearborn-Dearborn Heights area where I live. The three areas are contiguous with the D-DH area. Thank you.
Lori Boyce
Although not best for my community, i believe this is the best map overall. This is the best map for Pontiac having black representation. This seems to unite the 2 key environmental communities of interest along lake st clair and the Detroit River. It keeps Warren and Madison Heights together, and same re: Dearborn/ Dearborn Heights. It is one of the better maps
It ranks well (relatively) on partisan fairness and VRA compliance and is much more fair . than other maps, like Cardinal.
I would suggest some tweaks for my own community - to split off part of district 13 at the top or side to get population overage down and include the small part of farmington hills that is not included in district 13 in district 13.
Because this map is more fair overall, that is why i prefer map 404 over Heron, the only other map that I think is fair.
Chaldean Voices Matter
Chaldeans have been in MI for over 5 decades. We own many businesses. We contribute to MI economy. But we are ignored in this map. The only acceptable configurations for Chaldeans are Cardinal and Finch with District 10 or Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner with District 9. The 3 maps of Heron, Szetela and Starling VIOLATES Chaldean rights, suppresses our votes, marginalize us, disenfranchises our people, and dismisses our voices!
Luca M.
This map is discriminates against the Chaldean community. Do not choose please.
Lisa F Peers
While I prefer the Heron map, this would also be a good option for the residents of Birmingham.
Chaldean Voices Matter
This map violates Chaldean rights and divides our voices. The only acceptable configurations for Chaldeans are Cardinal and Finch with District 10 or Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner with District 9. The 3 maps of Heron, Szetela and Starling VIOLATES Chaldean rights, suppresses our votes, marginalize us, disenfranchises our people, and splits and dismisses our voices! Please do not use this map!
Peggy Roberts
This is a good map, though I think Heron is a bit better. The goal is to end gerrymandering and this one does a decent job.
Carole Murphy
The Szetela Map has a good mean-median advantage; a factor of partisan fairness. Relative to some of the other maps, Szetela is very good. please consider it. Thank you for your work.
Eve Mokotff
This is a great map for the Asian American and Chaldean communities. It has a fantastic partisan fairness score- and gives people a voice which is the reason we voted for redistricting. PLEASE CHOOSE THS MAP OR 376.
Cory Joyrich
This map creates a strong Downriver district and does a good job including Wayne suburban groups. It also features the best partisan fairness score. This is a very good map! Please approve.
Anna Kristina Johnson
Szetala's map is seen as one of the best because it's fair to different political groups and respects the rights of all voters. It also tries to include communities that have spoken up about what's important to them.
This map is good for LGBTQ communities because it connects them in places like Pontiac. It also brings together black communities from Pontiac, Detroit, and Southfield, which helps these groups have a stronger voice in politics.
However, it splits my community of Farmington Hills, which may mean lessrepresentation for us. Therefore, Heron is my first choice, because it has all of these same great qualities yet doesn't dilute the voice of city.
Doris Masters
This map breaks communities of interest apart and hurts the Chaldean community. It also hurts Detroit's representation by splitting up neighborhoods into different districts. Bad map.
Chaldean Voices Matter
This map violates Chaldeans rights by dividing us! The only acceptable configurations for Chaldeans are Cardinal and Finch with District 10 or Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner with District 9. The 3 maps of Heron, Szetela and Starling VIOLATES Chaldean rights, suppresses our votes, marginalize us, disenfranchises our people, and dismisses our voices!
Yousif Y.
This map destroys the Chaldean Community of interest. Please reject it! Thanks Commissioners for all your hard work!
Eliyah F.
This is a very bad mad for Chaldeans. We are not being represented with this map. Do no marginalize us! Reject this map for the Chaldean people! Crane or Cardinal are good for Chaldeans!
Luca M.
This is a very bad map for Chaldeans. Our voices need to be heard! Do not ignore us! We want a map that includes Sterling Heights, Troy and Rochester Hills together!
Bernadette L.
This map violates Chaldean rights and diminishes our voices! Please do not choose this map!
Chaldean Voices Matter
Chaldeans have been in MI for over 5 decades. We own many businesses. We contribute to MI economy. But we are ignored in this map. The only acceptable configurations for Chaldeans are Cardinal and Finch with District 10 or Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner with District 9. The 3 maps of Heron, Szetela and Starling VIOLATES Chaldean rights, suppresses our votes, marginalize us, disenfranchises our people, and dismisses our voices!
Alan Haber
I like this seems most fair
Charles Altman
This map addresses the criteria which the Commission is considering and addresses the Court's VRA concerns. Having suffered through years of gerrymandered districts, I place a high priority on partisan fairness. This map is one of the best suited maps to ensure that the party that gets the most votes gets the most seats. It is my second favorite map, with Heron being my favorite as my district is entirely within Oakland County in that map.
Leora Druckman
This a very good map. It is balanced and connects a number of significant communities. And it represents many different race, income and other groups. Most importantly, it works to prevent gerrymandering - making our voting process a much better representation of the make-up of our actual voting population.
Pam Shore
This map provides fair representation for minorities, including black and LGBTQ communities
nomi joyrich
Connects different waterfront communities which are COI. Great map for the environment
Carrie Hatcher-Kay
This support environmental interests for many communities AND the animals, plants, lands, rivers therein. It also supports the Latino community and Chaldean community.
Farrah Ishiyah
This is a very bad map for Chaldeans. Our people want to have a voice. It is not ok to ignore us. This map infringes on our rights.
Chaldean Voices Matter
This map violates Chaldeans rights by dividing us! The only acceptable configurations for Chaldeans are Cardinal and Finch with District 10 or Crane, Dove, Curry, Kellom, Lange, Orton or Wagner with District 9. The 3 maps of Heron, Szetela and Starling VIOLATES Chaldean rights, suppresses our votes, marginalize us, disenfranchises our people, and dismisses our voices!
Chaldean Voices Matter
Commissioner Szetela, All we as Chaldeans are asking for is to be represented with a fair senate map. This will either be with the Cardinal or the Crane configurations. You are effectively disenfranchising and marginalizing when you dismiss our voices! This map disenfranchises the Chaldean Community of Interest!
Chaldean Voices Matter
False Claim number 4 by commissioner Szetela: It's suspicious that more Chaldeans are putting more comments in as before. As a commissioner, you SHOULD NEVER dismiss a community like you did here! Even if true, SO WHAT if more Chaldean are involved in this process in 2024 than 2021? Isnt this the hope of this commission that more people get involved? Its Voters not Politians correct? Your comment was more inline with a politician making unprovable claims, stating false claims and dismissing a Community of interest than an independent commissioner whose job is to listen to what the communities of interest want. Chaldean is a community of interest and this map violates our rights!
Chaldean Voices Matter
False Claim number 3 by commissioner Szetela: She is a confirmed Catholic so she is familiar with the Chaldean Catholic Church. So? First not all Catholics are the same. Second, we are Eastern rite Catholics and are a big community in MI especially in Sterling Heights, Troy and Rochester Hills. Please do not suppress our votes! This map is the definition of voter suppression!
Chaldean Voices Matter
False Claim number 2 by commissioner Szetela: There are 6 Chaldean Churches in MI. This is just false! Commissioner Szetela there are 10 and not 6 church in the Southeast of Michigan. there are 4 churches on the West side and 5 on the East side and 1 in Grand blanc. I have always promoted a district in the East side that includes the areas of Sterling Heights, Troy and Rochester Hills. Commissioner Szetela cannot even get simple facts about the Chaldean community yet she has the power to marginalize us and it looks like she is using it by making false claims here... Please do not cancel our voices!
Chaldean Voices Matter
False claim number 1 by the caller on 6/11/2024 (I will not mention his name here): Prior to 2024 there were only 4 comments that talk about the Chaldeans in the Sterling Heights area in the State Senate context. commissioner Szetela actually agreed with this caller. This is an absolute false claim commissioner! Here are the facts: A simple search shows the desires of the Chaldean community to include Sterling Heights in the configuration where Chaldeans are at least 7 times in the Lange, Kellom, Szetela, Cherry V2, 10-08-21 V1 SD senate maps. This is only for the map portal I am not including the Public Comment Portal. You are supposed to read both portals! Then what is the point of this portal. Where was the number 4 come from? And I didnt do an extensive search to find more comments regarding the Chaldean community. At best, both that caller and Commissioner Szetela are just wrong and did not do a proper search. At worse they are both lying and trying to promote certain maps and dismiss Chaldean voices. I will give grace to Commissioner Szetela and say she is just wrong in her analysis. Please dont disenfranchise the Chaldean community! But your own senate map, Szetela Plan 404 disenfranchises and divides the Chaldean community...
Chaldean Voices Matter
There was a caller on 6/11/2024 who basically promoted the disenfranchisement of the Chaldean community. What's worse is that commissioner Szetela agreed with that caller and his false claims making false claims of her own! I will mention each of the claims in my proceeding comments.
Jason Behr
This is a fair map and keeps LP together
Lynda L Pawloski
After anallyzing the data, I like this map because it overall addresses partisan fairness as well as the Voting Rights Act. The MICRC was created to make sure partisan fairness was addressed. Also, I like that Farmington and Farmington Hills are kept together considering they share libraries and the school system. This is a good map.
Gerilyn K Biggs
This map is by far my favorite for partisan fairness, of greatb importance to me as a Michigan voter. It also addresses the issues brought forth in the lawsuit in the best way.
Janet Prange
This map, along with Kellum, are my favorites. The Lake area communities have common interests and belong together. Commerce and Wolverine Lake do not belong grouped with Highland, White Lake and other rural communities. This is a fair map.
Sharon McNeil
This ranks high to me on being fair to both parties
I like it and hope it goes forward as intended by proposal 2
Robert D Thomasson
Fair
Yousif Y.
I read some of the comments claiming that this respects Chaldean COIs, they are ignorant of the Chaldean community. This map splits the Chaldean communities objectively speaking. What's more, those commentators arent even Chaldean, based on their names. So how can they claim it benefits the Chaldean COIs when they arent even Chaldeans themselves? I know they arent Chaldean because I am Chaldean myself and I know and love my community.
Yousif Y.
This map disregards the Chaldean COIs. Please choose a map that considers Chaldeans. COI is higher than any partisan fairness that others are mentioning. There are other maps with good partisan fairness such as Cardinal, Crane or Dove and also respects the Chaldean communities and all the other COIs.
KRIS BUROW
This district is one of the best to reinforce the intent of Prop 2. The scores evidence partisan fairness - which is what the voter's called for by overwhelmingly approving Prop 2.
Catherine Lippert
Szetala Map is very fair
Holly Eliot
I like the fairness of this map. Thank you!
Cheryl Ann Huckins
I support this map which ranks high on partisan fairness, which is very important to me.
Ann Rodgers
This seems to be the best map. There are 3 majority minority districts, and a fairly low lopsided margin advantage. Please consider this one.
Timothy Hughes
Szetala is a fair map reflecting the intent of voters on the 2018 ballot proposal.
Melany Mack
Szetala scores well on partisan fairness.
Edward Saunders
This map achieves all of the the required criteria of compactness, VRA, while preserving COIs along with good partisan fairness with Mean-Median Difference of 1.0.
Jan Baumgras
This map has good scores similar to map 376, but, unlike 376, district 11 has been more significantly modified. Since the court included 11 as one of the districts that needed to be modified, it seems reasonable to me that the court will not approve a new map where a district that was considered non-compliant remains substantially the same. I want tge implemented map to be one submitted by the MICRC, which is what the voters aporoved in 2018. I appreciate other concerns that tge Chaldean COI might not be honored, but there us no guarantee that a map drawn by the Master selected by the court would preserve COIs either. The Michigan Constitution does require the MICRC to place high priority on COIs, but only after meeting legal mandates. In this case, the court has said that district 11 did not meet legal requirements. If breaking a COI is necessary to meet legal requirements and create a map that scores well on all metrics, then that is what the MICRC needs to do. As you know, not all COIs could be honored before either.
Tim Sawmiller
The Szetela map is clearly superior to other maps in correcting the errors made for ensuring fair Senate representation in the city of Detroit.
Laura J Hunt
Thank you! This map promotes partisan fairness as all redistricting should!
Carol J Polverini
This map will eliminate the the unfairness to minority voters which is the whole reason that all this redrawing had to take place. Please use this map.
Carol J Polverini
The purpose of the Commission is to prevent gerymandering. This map scores the highest on all measures. It shows partisan fairness.
Carol J Polverini
The purpose of the Commission is to prevent gerymandering. This map scores the highest on all measures. It shows partisan fairness.
Carol Lessure
This map does the best job of balancing the federal voting rights act to provide minority voters an equal opportunity to elect the candidates of their choice with three and potentially four minority-majority districts while also providing for partisan fairness that is part of the Michigan constitution. The Senate district maps are particularly challenging, and this one seems to find the best balance while also keeping municipalities whole better than any of the other 12 under consideration.
Shannon Falkenhagen
I like this map as it keeps the Italian American and Chaldean communities together as well LGBTQ. This map is fair and nonpartisan.
Lauren Lisi
This map has good partisan fairness like Heron and Kellom. COI is not important to me as I feel I belong to the Community of Southeast Michigan.
Elizabeth Kaufman
This is also a good map, highly worthy of consideration, as it fits the bill as nonpartisan and addresses many communities of interest.
Ronald Hoffman
The major goal is to provide for partisan fairness and meet the goal of communities of interest. This map does both.
Faye
I do not like this map at all. It splits Sterling Heights in a way that does not make sense. If you are going to split Sterling Heights than you should the same way as the original District 9 along Van Dyke. I also do not like how it has the Pontiac to Southfield District. I don’t like how District 2 includes Taylor. The districts in Detroit also adhere to 8-mile too much. It also scores the same as Cardinal in Partisan Fairness, having an equal efficiency gap as the Cardinal map.
Yousif Y.
This map destroys the Chaldean Community of interest. Please reject it! Thanks Commissioners for all your hard work!
james ward leyerle
This does not seem to keep together the SE Oakland/Woodward Corridor, and subsumes Ferndale into the much larger Detroit community.
Louis J Porter
Partisan fairness is a constitutional mandate! This map achieves that constitutional mandate! This map and the lines drawn pays close attention to reflects appropriately communities of interest. This is the best and fairest maps of those submitted!
Allegra Pitera
Great one! This unites the LGBQT communities in Ferndale and Palmer Park.
Violet E. Anderson
This map is much more fairly drawn than many others. I'm glad they drew by location and not population. It looks more fair to all the communities that are represented geographically.
Lori orel
I like this map as it seems nonpartisan and more fair than the past.
Erica Brown Ackerman
This map has the best partisan fairness.
Shadia Martini
This map has some positives and negatives, but overall it is an acceptable map.
Deborah Kraus
I like this map because it feels fair to all constituencies, especially in Pontiac and for the Hispanic population all across the state. It has a good Seat Share score. Of particular importance to me is that it unites both the main Muslim areas of the state, the Caldean and Bagladeshi communities, and two of the LGBTQ communities together.
Nomi Joyrich
I like this map a lot. This does a great job giving Pontiac a strong voice and increases the chances of Black representation.
Sharon Baseman
I don't like the way this splits our part of Oakland County away and puts it with a big chunk of Macomb County. We really don't have much in common. I like the Heron better because it keeps us with other parts of Oakland County that we have more in common with.
Anastasey Manolatos
Firstly thank you all for your hard work that you’re doing and thank you for the opportunity to speak. As a resident of Brownstown in downriver, the proposed state senate district 4 strong district for downriver residents that keeps our community together in map 404. Thank you for proposing a map with a district that keeps the downriver area community of interest together. Additionally, this map, Szetela 404, is the best map that complies with the requirement for partisan fairness. Please adopt this map to best reflect the original intent of what Michiganders voted for back in 2018. It is your duty to respect the will of the people as that is the source of legitimate authority for government action. Do not forget the proposal that created this commission passed in 2018 with 80 of Michigan’s 83 counties voting in favor. Please adopt map 404 for its keeping of the downriver community of interest in district 4 together as well as for its firm commitment to partisan fairness. Thank you all for your hard work on this process, and thank you for the opportunity to speak to you all today.
William Wilson
This map does a really good job keeping the Clinton River watershed together here in this district, something that COI really needs to help combat the decades longs struggle to help clean up that watershed
Alyson Grigsby
While I partially wish I was connected more with the North End, this map does a good job of keeping my community whole with Midtown and Downtown Detroit, as well as being one of the more partisan fair maps
Allen Ralph Wolf
Maybe. Does a good job on partisan fairness but not so good on communities of interest. Birmingham is split in half and the school district is dissected as well.
Amber Andrini
I do not like how the lines are cut up here. There seems to be no reason, not even neighborhood lines, for how these random spots jump out. What's that about?
I also don't think that this represents the suburban COIs, the City's COIs, based on the changes and weird configurations. There are other maps that score just as well on partisan fairness, like the much-better Cardinal map.
Rena
I like this map. Because it connects Ferndale with Palmer Park, it will give the strongest voice to the LGBTQIA community.
Jonathan T Weinberg
This map achieves a high degree of partisan fairness.
Frances E Chudnow
This seem to be one of the fairest maps that has the best balance of partisan interests
Stephen Abbott
Eastpointe has more in common with Warren and Detroit than it does with SH. I don't like how the SH section is put together. It hurts the chaldean community, the SH community, etc.
Deborah Rosenman
I am unhappy with how this map splits off part of Bloomfield Township in one Senate district and part in another. Then Birmingham is not with Southfield Township (Beverly Hills, etc.) We are all in the same school district as a common community of interest but not in the same Senate district.
Jamie Roe
Commissioner Szetela, can you explain why you put large numbers of the Chaldean Community, three Chaldean Catholic Churches, and the Chaldean Community Foundation into three seprarte districts? It's almost like you trying to divide the Chaldean Community of Interest. Reject
LAURIE KIMMEL
This is a fvorite app that helps my community
LAURIE BERMAN KIMMEL
This is themap that has thef airest distribution
of balance and would reflect best on my community
Jody W Schottenfels
This map most represents my community and is fair all around to all communities
Abby Schwartz
This map does a good job with partisan fairness.
Daniel W. Berland
A fair map that respects partisan neutralities and COIs.
Alexander J Owski
This map does the best job of representing my own community as well as Detroit residents.
Rochelle Rubin
This is one of the best options for a non-partisan map. I like it as a choice.
Elizabeth Buckner
This seems like one of the better maps that seems fairer to all people.
john leon
This map takes community testimony to heart, making it an excellent choice.
Shelia A.B.
This map does not respect what the oakland chaldean community has asked for. It chops up the chaldean community in sterling heights and the churches in the region, and then adds in parts of oakland that are not part of the chaldean community. Please do a better job of respecting communities of interest. This map m ay be unconstitutional because it hurts communities of interest in my opinion.
Virginia Preuss
Thanks for your continued efforts to draw good maps for Michigan, and specifically SE Michigan. This is a fair map that gets my support.
Marie Kazanowski
This map is a poor choice for the communities along the border of these districts. It cuts indiscriminately, with no sense either way. It does not make the effort to properly respect the communities of interest that have spoken up.
Eileen MacDonald
Demonstrates partisan fairness!
Margaret Schankler
This is a good map for partisan fairness.
Margaret Schankler
This is a good map for partisan fairness.
Nomi Joyrich
I like this map. It has partisan fairness and keeps my community together.
Sherry B Trezise
This map would be my second choice, after the Heron map. Statewide partisan fairness is maintained, and it appears to be considerate of local communities. We cannot slide back into gerrymandering, as existed before we voters created the MICRC.
Michaela Smith
This map does NOT support the communities and ethnic communities of interest that have madee their voices heard. It does NOT support the chaldean community, does NOT support Arabic community completely, does NOT support all of the Taylor community of interest comments you heard, and does NOT support the Macomb central area that made its voice heard.
Mary Brown
Reviewing them, this is one of the best. Heron also scores well. It maintains partisan fairness and is thoughtful to the local communities.
Chris Andrews
This is a fair, thoughtful map, but I don't expect an individual map to be considered. Heron is equally good and is collaborative.
Lisa Jevens
This map is one of the two best, along with Heron. Commissioner Szetela knows what she is doing. This map scores the highest on all measures, and maintains partisan fairness, which is the most important thing when redistricting to prevent gerrymandering. We do not want to go back to what we had in Michigan before the MICRC!
Stephen Abbott
As someone who has lived in all threee counties involved, i don't really like how this one groups people of different groups together. hurts voices of groups of interest
Kristine McLonis
While I am a bit surprised that Ferndale is the one city north of 8 Mile included in the proposed 3rd state senate district, I do like that a good swath of Detroit is included in the same proposed district. I also like this map as a whole for its level of partisan fairness.
Deborah Olszewski
Like
Chris Gilmer-Hill
These detroit splits totally ignore COIs and neighborhood boundaries. It looks like suburban districts are grabbing random chunks of detroit to meet an arbitrary quota, which is exactly what got the previous maps struck down
lori A Boyce
Although this chops up my community, I think this is the best map: addresses black voters of detroit, is compact, and is one of the best from a partisan fairness perspective. Please note that partisan fairness is of upmost importance to me as the MIRC was created in order to end gerrymandering. Good job on this one.
Karen Adams
This map does a much better job of representing the interests of the communities of Oakland County. It does not cross into Livingston County which I believe is a positive. My area of Commerce Township is quite developed and has more in common with the adjacent suburbs than the more rural parts of Oakland County to the north. The districts seem more compact physically, less gerrymandered. I believe we would get better representation with this map.
Sarah Abbs
Unsurprisingly, the independent citizens redistricting commission has commissioned an entirely disappointing map in this case. Thankfully, there are much better options made available to them and the people of our great state.
Brent B
This does not respect the chaldean community of interest
Brent B
This would be bad. Sterling heights shouldn't be with eastpointe. That doesn't respect communities of interest for the central macomb community
Fabrice Smieliauskas
The new State Senate district 9 on this map beautifully contains a true broader community of interest with common travel patterns, and a rich diversity of racial and ethnic groups. It includes all of Troy, Clawson, Birmingham, Utica, Rochester and Rochester Hills, as well as parts of Bloomfield Hills and Sterling Heights. Much of this area is served by common public transit SMART system routes, and contains many of the shopping, recreational and employment centers used by its residents. It combines a large Asian population in Troy and Rochester Hills with a large Middle Eastern/North African population in Troy/Rochester Hills and the Chaldean community of west Sterling Heights, in addition to Eastern European and earlier migrant waves. Most of this Senate district maps onto the current Michigan 55th, 56th and 57th State House districts, which will align these areas in a common political community and allow natural movement of political candidates between local government positions, the state House and the state Senate. This will attract better candidates to long-term political careers and foster a vibrant political culture.
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